Brian Rowan: How Labour and the UDA tried to gag my explosive Michael Stone interview

Journalist Brian Rowan has revealed how loyalist killer Michael Stone and the UDA’s political allies tried to cease the BBC broadcasting an interview he’d recorded within the run-up to the Good Friday Settlement referendum over fears it might result in a ‘No’ vote.

In his deeply private new e book about masking the Troubles, the previous BBC safety correspondent additionally writes that the Northern Eire Workplace (NIO)  tried to suppress a narrative he was operating within the Nineties questioning their official briefings that the IRA had been about to decommission their weapons.

In relation to Stone, Rowan says in Residing With Ghosts that he filmed the interview with the Milltown Cemetery assassin on Friday, Could 15,1998.

This was simply over 10 years after he’d launched his bloody assault on mourners at an IRA funeral of three members killed by the SAS in Gibraltar.

Michael Stone attacks mourners at an IRA funeral in Milltown cemetery in March 1988
Michael Stone assaults mourners at an IRA funeral in Milltown cemetery in March 1988

The interview was recorded in a room in east Belfast when Stone was on 96 hours parole from the Maze jail.

And it got here a day after he acquired a hero’s welcome from 1,000 loyalists as he arrived on the Ulster Corridor in Belfast for a rally organised by the UDA-linked Ulster Democratic Get together who had been calling for a Sure vote within the referendum every week later.

The UDA’s chief within the Maze, Sam McCrory, who died lately in Scotland, had already mentioned in a telephone name from inside jail, that the conflict was over and he apologised to the victims of violence.

However the subsequent day when Stone was requested by Rowan if he would share in McCrory’s apology, he replied: “I might share in that almost all undoubtedly. I've mentioned previously that each one deaths are regrettable, be they harmless civilians, members of the safety forces, loyalist volunteers and, sure, even members of the republican dying squads.”

However when he was requested by Rowan particularly if he would apologise for what he did, Stone paused momentarily earlier than saying: “Inside the context of being a volunteer in a conflict, no, I don’t apologise, however I acknowledge the harm I’ve triggered.”

Rowan then left the room the place among the many UDA males there was the East Belfast UDA ‘brigadier’ Jim Grey.

However when he returned, outstanding loyalist and convicted UFF killer John White requested the journalist what he would say if he or Stone requested him handy over the tape and he replied: ‘No’.

From left: John White, and UDA 'brigadiers' Jim Gray, John Gregg, and Johnny Adair after Stone's release from prison
From left: John White, and UDA 'brigadiers' Jim Grey, John Gregg, and Johnny Adair after Stone's launch from jail

Rowan says it’s his understanding that White had acquired a telephone name, presumably from the NIO, saying that Stone mustn't seem on TV as a result of it might contribute to the voters rejecting the peace deal within the referendum. By the point Rowan returned to Broadcasting Home in Belfast, a fax was ready for him. It had been despatched by loyalist Frankie Gallagher — and in addition signed by Stone — in a bid to cease the interview attending to air.

It learn: ‘Pricey Brian, I'm writing to verify that it's Michael Stone’s want to not have his interview broadcast because of the delicate nature and the political local weather for the time being. It's not our want to trigger any undue stress or harm in our group.’

Rowan wrote: “The prisoner concern was a major a part of the post-Settlement dialog, so it was essential to listen to what Stone needed to say. The BBC ran the interview that night.”

Two days later, Sunday Life carried an unique story saying the BBC, the then Prime Minister Tony Blair and the UDP had been “embroiled in a fierce behind-the-scenes confrontation over the broadcasting” of the Stone interview.

UDA leader Jim Gray (left) with Michael Stone at a loyalist rally in 1998
UDA chief Jim Grey (left) with Michael Stone at a loyalist rally in 1998

The paper mentioned that Mr Blair had been understood to have change into personally concerned in makes an attempt to firstly cease the interview going down, and when that failed, being broadcast.

Rowan mentioned Sunday Life hadn’t spoken to him however had obtained particulars of the Gallagher/Stone fax.

He mentioned the federal government had been ‘understandably’ nervous and he wrote in his e book: “With the referendum nonetheless to occur, it was not the kind of reply (from Stone) the federal government needed to listen to — not on tv, not on radio, not with individuals watching and listening, not from Stone, whose actions within the cemetery had been filmed and on a rewind button inside many individuals’s heads. The problem of prisoner releases was toxic.”

However even after the Stone interview was screened, it wasn’t the final that Rowan heard about it.

He mentioned that when he and his spouse Val had been travelling alongside the Sydenham by-pass to their Holywood residence, Jim Grey leaned out of one other automotive at visitors lights and shouted: “Are you continue to stealing the f*****g tapes? Are you continue to stealing the f*****g tapes?”

Rowan instructed his spouse that if the automotive adopted them into Holywood, she ought to cease on the city’s police station but it surely continued on the highway to Bangor. He says that the NIO had been additionally livid after the BBC refused to drop his experiences that questioned their assurances to UUP chief David Trimble that the IRA had been going to decommission, with Rowan countering that the Provisionals weren’t about to eliminate their weapons at that stage.

However he additionally angered the IRA after he dismissed their denials that they had been concerned within the raid on workplaces of the RUC Particular Department in 2002.

He additionally stood his floor after the LVF denied his declare that that they had been concerned within the homicide of Lurgan solicitor Rosemary Nelson in March 1999.

Murdered lawyer Rosemary Nelson
Murdered lawyer Rosemary Nelson

Rowan — who has beforehand spoken of his issues over the protection of his household and that he had searched below his spouse’s automotive for bombs — says his new e book is an evidence relatively than a confession. He writes concerning the dilemma that many ‘Troubles journalists’ confronted of “a stroll alongside that thinnest of strains between life and dying on a path the place morals, ethics and ideas change into blurred and our minds change into tortured’’.

One incident specifically had a profound impression on Rowan. It was in south Armagh in 1992 and, after he had come throughout the our bodies of IRA males who had been killed by their very own, the Provisionals took him and one other journalist, Eamonn Mallie to a home the place tape and goggles had been faraway from their eyes and the place they had been learn an announcement written concerning the killings on bathroom paper.

Rowan mentioned that the subsequent day, BBC information editor Tom Kelly, who went on to change into Tony Blair’s spokesman in London, supplied him counselling.

“I declined,” says Rowan, however he now acknowledges there “was one thing incorrect with me”.

13 years later Rowan stop his job on the BBC and he admits he had a way of being bodily and mentally damaged by the toll the Troubles had taken on him.

Brian Rowan
Brian Rowan

However he doesn’t concur with buddies who mentioned he was “having some type of a meltdown”. He calls it “a weighing down and a sporting down”. At one level he writes of: “…the nightmares. Shouting in my sleep, trapped, surrounded. The dilemmas. The choices. The doubts. Attempting to remain sturdy and dropping my nerve for some time; needing to flee. And the way I nonetheless fall into locations and moods of darkness”.

Rowan says he could write one other e book telling extra of the tales he’s not prepared or in a position to share. Simply but.

*Residing with Ghosts: The Inside Story from a ‘Troubles’ Thoughts by Brian Rowan is revealed by Merrion Press

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